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Kin 07-17-2009 01:07 PM

Britannia Rarity
 
Been looking at these for a while, and even thought Austrailian Kangaroos change each year they still arent as sought after as Britannias.

What I am wondering is why some years, like the 2001 are almost imposible to find at a decent price.

Edit - Some designs reoccur. The 2009 Britannia is the same as the 1997, the ones that are labeled 'special' are one offs.

Sorry, the original was 1987, not 1988, here are the pics

1987-1988-1989-1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-1996-1998-1999-2000-2002-2004-2006
http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/images/...roofrev400.jpg
1997-2009
http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/images/...roofrev400.jpg
2001
http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/images/...uncerev400.jpg
2003
http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/images/...roofrev400.jpg
2005
http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/images/...roofrev400.jpg
2007
http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/images/...roofrev400.jpg
2008
http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/images/...roofrev400.jpg

Iptuous 07-17-2009 01:11 PM

Re: Britannia Rarity
 
because hot chicks in flowing gowns and helmets are the sh!t....

TomD 07-17-2009 01:12 PM

Re: Britannia Rarity
 
I've got several but I'll hold for now. Pict below. For some reason I've never gotten a shot of this coin that I was happy with.

What sort of prices are you seeing?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iptuous (Post 1822297)
because hot chicks in flowing gowns and helmets are the sh!t....

You are probably thinking of the bottom coin---yeah, pretty hot :bear_wub:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2594/...f8a7f83a_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3054/...f1b8da70_b.jpg

Kin 07-17-2009 01:14 PM

Re: Britannia Rarity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomD (Post 1822298)

What sort of prices are you seeing?

For gold, they are always %50 above spot

SLV>GLD 07-17-2009 01:17 PM

Re: Britannia Rarity
 
They are at least 50% up for silver versions as well.
I snagged an '09 off Apmex last week and it was $33.
I do believe I paid upwards of $50 for my '03.
I will continue to buy them but I do not think I could ever part with them.

TomD 07-17-2009 01:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kin (Post 1822303)
For gold, they are always %50 above spot

Spot's at $13.40 now, I'd say buy all the Britannias you can for $20---

Irons 07-17-2009 01:20 PM

Re: Britannia Rarity
 
I have 2 1988's in gold and a 2000 (just got) in silver. I fear this is just the begining of Britannia madness...:bear_wub::36_3_16:.:adore::10_1_19:

Kin 07-17-2009 01:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TomD (Post 1822314)
Spot's at $13.40 now, I'd say buy all the Britannias you can for $20---

Ok, to be more precise...

They are AT LEAST %50 over spot, even for the crappy ones.

Some of the Gold ones are double spot

SLV>GLD 07-17-2009 01:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kin (Post 1822323)
Ok, to be more precise...

They are AT LEAST %50 over spot, even for the crappy ones.

Some of the Gold ones are double spot

Yes, should have said 200% of spot. My bad, as well.

HistoryStudent 07-17-2009 02:29 PM

Re: Britannia Rarity
 
sadly they are all beautiful - but way too PRICY for a stinkin' bullion coin.

:36_3_12:

Argentum 47 07-17-2009 02:30 PM

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Have a few of the Silver ones... no Gold as yet..pockets not that deep :D

Hope to get full set of Silvers....hefty premium as already stated.

Irons 07-17-2009 02:42 PM

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1 Attachment(s)
If you can find one of these, buy it! They are beautiful.:wink:
Attachment 75588

Clawdia 07-17-2009 02:43 PM

Re: Britannia Rarity
 
I got lucky a few months ago and bought a 1987 two piece gold proof Britannia set on ebay (1/4 and 1/10th oz) for so close to spot it was scary . . . I think I paid like $20 over spot for the set.

They're beautiful - and in that small pile of coins I have that would be the last to be sold, and only under extreme circumstances.

LOL - edited to add - mine are just like the set Irons just posted the picture of . . .

Irons 07-17-2009 02:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clawdia (Post 1822472)
I got lucky a few months ago and bought a 1987 two piece gold proof Britannia set on ebay (1/4 and 1/10th oz) for so close to spot it was scary . . . I think I paid like $20 over spot for the set.

They're beautiful - and in that small pile of coins I have that would be the last to be sold, and only under extreme circumstances.

LOL - edited to add - mine are just like the set Irons just posted the picture of . . .

Attachment 75591Thats wild Clawdia, I just got a 1988 set for right around spot also!Attachment 75591
This guy a friend knows inhereted it and was going to bring it to a pawn shop, my buddy told him to bring it to me first.:coolbeer:
Attachment 75591

TomD 07-17-2009 02:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1822438)
sadly they are all beautiful - but way too PRICY for a stinkin' bullion coin.

:36_3_12:

Not always, I bought the gold one above in a pawn shop in Alpharetta across the street from the Ferrari dealer (a little irony there) for $620 in summer 2006, about $40 over spot at the time.

SLV>GLD 07-17-2009 03:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1822438)
a stinkin' bullion coin.

Yet no vote for "They all stink"?

Argentum 47 07-17-2009 04:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Irons (Post 1822467)
If you can find one of these, buy it! They are beautiful.:wink:
Attachment 75588

They look sweet..... gotta have one

Irons 07-17-2009 05:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Argentum 47 (Post 1822632)
They look sweet..... gotta have one

Try these guys, they're in the UK.:wink:
http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/britann...2coinsets.html

TomD 07-17-2009 05:56 PM

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Here's the one winning the popularity poll.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...annia2copy.jpg

livtocruz 07-17-2009 06:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TomD (Post 1822785)
Here's the one winning the popularity poll.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...annia2copy.jpg

SWEET looking coin.

Ag_man 07-17-2009 07:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TomD (Post 1822785)
Here's the one winning the popularity poll.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x...annia2copy.jpg

Got my vote!

Irons 07-17-2009 08:53 PM

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On the 1988 gold proofs with a loupe, you can see details right down to her toenails, they are that good!:ok:

Iptuous 07-17-2009 10:14 PM

Re: Britannia Rarity
 
i've got two of the '03s but i got one off an ebay store and it has a little toning spot on it. i was mad when i got it, but the fellow took forever to send it to me and didn't have anymore, so i kept it rather than return for refund....
I want to get the others, but they're so darned expensive, and i have to complete my lunar set, too...

Caligula 07-17-2009 11:25 PM

Re: Britannia Rarity
 
Speaking of Brits....I have a full set for sale. 1998-2007.
Also have 2009, 2more 2000's, a 2006 and three more 2003's. 18 coins in all. All BU.
Message me and make me an offer if interested.

Oh, and don't ask why I don't have a 2008....I don't have an answer.

livtocruz 07-18-2009 02:33 AM

Re: Britannia Rarity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomD (Post 1822298)
I've got several but I'll hold for now. Pict below. For some reason I've never gotten a shot of this coin that I was happy with.

What sort of prices are you seeing?



You are probably thinking of the bottom coin---yeah, pretty hot :bear_wub:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2594/...f8a7f83a_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3054/...f1b8da70_b.jpg

The gold one shown above.

livtocruz 07-18-2009 02:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ag_man (Post 1822880)
Got my vote!

And this silver one. So, can't I vote twice? Everyone that has money (much more than me) does.

Dammit, where is the picture? The beautiful babe in the helmut.

PiVi1962 07-18-2009 12:57 PM

Re: Britannia Rarity
 
Philip Nathan's Britannia are masterpieces of art.
The 2003 and 2001 coins are, in my opinion, two coins that will make the story of coinage. Their design is simply stunning.
I own the 2003 set both in gold and silver, and I have the 2001 set in silver too.
I collect other series, but I fell in love with those two subjects.

There is no "decent" price for art masterpieces...

livtocruz 07-18-2009 02:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PiVi1962 (Post 1823734)
Philip Nathan's Britannia are masterpieces of art.
The 2003 and 2001 coins are, in my opinion, two coins that will make the story of coinage. Their design is simply stunning.
I own the 2003 set both in gold and silver, and I have the 2001 set in silver too.
I collect other series, but I fell in love with those two subjects.

There is no "decent" price for art masterpieces...

I agree, this artist is a "Master". :36_1_32v:

Ragnarok 07-18-2009 03:05 PM

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Could not vote because there was no "They all rock, imo!" option. :10_1_20:

livtocruz 07-18-2009 05:38 PM

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My only problem with U.K., Australian and Canadian coins is that they need to get rid of the old lady on the obverse side. At least most of the worlds coins change up the people shown on different size denominations.

Comments??


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Jekyll7 07-23-2009 08:07 PM

Re: Britannia Rarity
 
The frosted proof standing Britannia with the trident (1988 style) is (IMO) not only the prettiest Britannia, but one of the prettiest coins PERIOD.

Irons 07-24-2009 10:04 AM

Re: Britannia Rarity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by livtocruz (Post 1824084)
My only problem with U.K., Australian and Canadian coins is that they need to get rid of the old lady on the obverse side. At least most of the worlds coins change up the people shown on different size denominations.

Comments??

I agree the hag has got to go, but I think somewhere in British history somebody proclaimed all coins of the rhelm must have the image of the current hag on them.
I just never flip them over, children cry and dogs howl if you do!:banana:

TomD 07-24-2009 10:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Irons (Post 1833408)
I agree the hag has got to go, but I think somewhere in British history somebody proclaimed all coins of the rhelm must have the image of the current hag on them.
I just never flip them over, children cry and dogs howl if you do!:banana:

Come on now, some versions aren't bad, she's even cute in this one.

The version on the latest Australian coins make it look like she has gills.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3155/...a6e44baa_b.jpg

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x.../GoldQueen.jpg

Irons 07-24-2009 11:44 AM

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Well Tom, I must admit she looks a bit less haggish on the top coin!:banana:

livtocruz 07-24-2009 01:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TomD (Post 1833449)
Come on now, some versions aren't bad, she's even cute in this one.

The version on the latest Australian coins make it look like she has gills.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3155/...a6e44baa_b.jpg

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x.../GoldQueen.jpg

Yup, the 100 dollar coin has the 'HAG' on it. :moon:

HistoryStudent 07-24-2009 02:53 PM

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The UK coins are too pricy for BULLION coins - they are beautiful however - but not worth the extra. I'd rather have a UHR Eagle frankly. :ARMS1:

That said for BULLION coins only I would mention the Mexican 20 & 50 peso coins. They are sold as bullion yet have dates and if slabbed :yes: worth a tad more. The BIGGIE 50 peso coin is rather pretty with the Roman type on the rear EAGLE and front LADY. They are also 1.2 ounces so you get a big bang for one coin - and that's about as BIG as I would go :yes: as far a weight.

Best wishes,

HS

Irons 07-25-2009 08:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HistoryStudent (Post 1833925)
The UK coins are too pricy for BULLION coins - they are beautiful however - but not worth the extra. I'd rather have a UHR Eagle frankly. :ARMS1:

That said for BULLION coins only I would mention the Mexican 20 & 50 peso coins. They are sold as bullion yet have dates and if slabbed :yes: worth a tad more. The BIGGIE 50 peso coin is rather pretty with the Roman type on the rear EAGLE and front LADY. They are also 1.2 ounces so you get a big bang for one coin - and that's about as BIG as I would go :yes: as far a weight.

Best wishes,

HS

They sure can be overpriced, but if a body is in the right place at the right time they can be bought for no more than any other bullion coin. Heck, Clawdia and I both found boxed 2 coin proof sets for spot!!bancha
If you see one in your travels ask about it, it may be cheaper priced than you think!:yes:

Clawdia 07-25-2009 04:45 PM

Re: Britannia Rarity
 
And it sure was fun finding that one, too! :s1:

There's a set on ebay now, for waaaaay more than what I paid.

I'd love to have it, but not for that price!

It was listed last night, so apparently nobody is real quick to offer up that much.

CAVU 07-25-2009 09:44 PM

Re: Britannia Rarity
 
Does someone have an idea how many Au britannias were minted? Looked on the royal mint site, wasnt much help. They seem to be more of a collector coin than a bullion coin like GAEs.

Kin 07-25-2009 10:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CAVU (Post 1835766)
Does someone have an idea how many Au britannias were minted? Looked on the royal mint site, wasnt much help. They seem to be more of a collector coin than a bullion coin like GAEs.

If you are talking about the Proofs then

1250 for the 1 oz
1250 for the 1/2 oz
2250 for the 1/4 oz
2000 for the 1/10 oz

livtocruz 07-26-2009 12:05 PM

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Recently, yesterday, I was bidding for a 2001 and 2003 set of silver Brittanias. I dropped out at the $100 level. They sold for $126 and $127, ouch. well above the spot+ price. These must be really, really popular. I think I'll just go for the Gold.

Irons 07-26-2009 04:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CAVU (Post 1835766)
Does someone have an idea how many Au britannias were minted? Looked on the royal mint site, wasnt much help. They seem to be more of a collector coin than a bullion coin like GAEs.

Try these guys, they seem to have all the mintage numbers down. You have to dig a bit to find individual britannia info.

http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/britanniaproofs.html

Irons 07-26-2009 05:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clawdia (Post 1835457)
And it sure was fun finding that one, too! :s1:

There's a set on ebay now, for waaaaay more than what I paid.

I'd love to have it, but not for that price!

It was listed last night, so apparently nobody is real quick to offer up that much.

I'll go look,:yes: a guy in California put up a 1987 set for $499 + $15 shipping BIN while I was waiting for mine, it sold in a little over an hour.:36_1_25:

Here's the listing:http://cgi.ebay.com/BRITANNIA-25-AND...3A1%7C294%3A50

CAVU 07-26-2009 09:44 PM

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The britannias are some of the best looking bullion coins out there. From the site that Irons gave, found mintage of proofs for most years but some missing non-proof years. Looks like most the proofs are sold in sets. Thought this quote was interesting..

Quote:

Fancy a Challenge?
If you fancy a challenge, just try getting one of every date of non-proof Britannias, either just the one ounce versions, or all four weights. It will be much harder than you think!
This must mean that the non-proof Britannias are harder to come by? Would think it would be the opposite.

Date Mintage Available Price � Price $
1987 Ask �672 $Ask
1988 Ask �672 $Ask
1989 Ask �672 $Ask
1990 5,208 Ask �672 $Ask
1991 8,853 No �672 $Ask
1992 8,012 No �672 $Ask
1993 24,689 Ask �672 $Ask
1994 14,497 Ask �672 $Ask
1995 8,042 Ask �672 $Ask
1996 8,275 No
1997 Ask �672 $Ask
1998 No
1999 1,277 Ask �672 $Ask
2000 Ask �672 $Ask
2001 Ask �672 $Ask
2002 Later*
2003 Yes �672 $Ask
2004 Yes
2005 Who Knows?
2006 Who Knows?
2007 Ask �672 $Ask
2008 Who Knows?
2009 Ask �672 $Ask

Looks like most years for Au Britannias are mintages in the low thousands.

Irons 07-26-2009 10:01 PM

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I just got a 1/10 2002 britannia proof, not boxed, the seller claimed the mintage at 1500.
update: I can't find proof of that number anywhere, the plot thickens!

Kin 07-27-2009 01:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CAVU (Post 1837070)

This must mean that the non-proof Britannias are harder to come by? Would think it would be the opposite.
...
Looks like most years for Au Britannias are mintages in the low thousands.

Well if you live here you should know, that the Royal Mint hardly ever sells BU Gold Britannias, they sell to dealers on and off and dealers actually announce it as a score when they get them
As for Proofs, they never exceed 10K


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